Biosonix - Fact or Fiction

[CMorg]

What do you guys think ? I dont like to spend $20 for a swimbait and not catch a fish , I couldnt imagine spending $600 and not noticing an immediate increase in my catch rate.

[lilmule]

Well most lures are built to sell to fishermen,not catch fish necessarilly.
Does not mean a very expensive one wont,most likly if it catches more than a close simular bait it is because of the angler somewhat attributed to a more positive attitude and then tossing longer as well.
I have a 20 dollar swimbait have actually caught less on it than a 10 dollar one,but because I did catch several fish on the ten dollar one I used it more therafter.
Am now purchasing a few 5 dollar ones,its looks and how they act or swim ,many are like lc look alikes or some other popular bait,maybe slightly different bill,yet work
Out in california it makes sence to buy a caustaic trout,large realistic bait,but not in Tn or Ind.
Use what you feel comfortable throwing and catching fish on,then it really matters little what it actually cost.Thats true both ways if you can afford them,like throwing them and catch fish on a very expensive bait then that is what you should throw.
Me reitred on a budget im a 5 and dimer.Still catch fish,so means little to me.

[cassidyta]

I do believe that there is a science to the biosonix, but I do not claim to fully understand nor buy into the belief that it is a $600 value.
I know that Skeet claims it was the difference for him in 09. However, this is a guy who can dedicate all of his time and endorcement money to such a product.
I think that it, like so many things we use, is a tool that would require a lot of use to master.
I would aslo submit, that it takes some of the pleasure of the hunt out of fishing. Not much different than chumming an area for catfish of spreading apples to get a deer.

[lilmule]

Like any gimmick it has its moments,being sound orieted like the sound of feeding shad,would increase bites.Its also not to be turned on in any T,for that reason being a DQ I believe in say BASS events.
Thus why even a 5 dollar bait can be a good buy,and yet a 600 dollar electrnoics may not be,would it increase catches for say guides yes around feeding areas,but as a recreational fisherman doubt if it would be profitable,as a T angler all it will get you is a DQ if used in actual event,used in prefish to find areas that hold fish sure plus he didnt have to buy his.
Like expensive baits its designed to sell.
That said their generally is a waiting list.
Many having the idea to hide and turn on via a remote sw,and have a feeding frenzy next to the boat,just like a rattle trap its audable or can be ,your boat pard would know.

[Texan4Liberty]

I personally wouldn't buy one. Many will claim it increases your catch rate, maybe it does. But I also know guys that think that having the newest nicest boat, truck, rod/reels, structure scanning equipment, clothing, and lures helps them catch more fish too. And I out FISH them all of the time using my 93 Astro boat/ 175 Mercury motor, and with rods and reels that combined wouldn't cost over $100 each. Yes I have a Lowrance GPS/depthfinder(on sale 1/2 price) but only use it to navigate unfamiliar waters. and I am always looking at the sporting goods stores for the fishing supplies(lures) on sale to fish with(but I won't comprimise quality hooks).
I was told 3 years ago when I first took up bass fishing that the most valueable thing you can have fishing is time on the water in all the weather conditions, to learn the fish's habits and habitats, and the ability to figure out what it takes to catch the fish.
Believe it or not knowledge and common sense are the all time best tools to have when fishing.

[Tavery5]

KVD is a big supporter of the Biosonix unit. Do a quick search and you can find a radio interview with him, where he gives his thoughts about Biosonix.

[CiK]

I think it works, but I think it wouldn't work for me because I am not as good as getting on fish like the pros are. Since they always seem to put themselves into situations where they have fish around them, I think it helps them. Me, I would use it in an empty creek channel (free of fish, not water). LOL

[CamG]

I have never been around them. I think the idea is great, but until I see it work first hand, I'll be a little sceptical.

Here's a video that I'd seen some time ago. I believe that was the first time I'd ever heard of it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/johncrew...36/FeYbHaUm5R8

[boloson]

i guess in competition for any pros any gimmick is worth a shot but i think it defeats the purpose of fishing in the real world. i love finding new spots, casting out my lures & not knowing what's after my bait. that "not knowing what's after my bait" part is what makes it exciting for me. catching a fish is the icing on the cake & catching a big one is the cherry on top

[Tavery5]

Watching the video, it did not seem like JC was all that impressed with BSX

[pro reel]

You can do almost the same thing by cutting figure 8s with the boat over an area known to hold fish. Noise , wind and wave action , prop wash, all of these can and will trigger feeding some times. If the unit is not banned in a tournament, then I could see the benefit of buying one. I know it's not banned in many of the tournaments I fish in, but it may be soon. To buy one for recreational fishing would be a waste of money when you would be better off getting better electronics or other equipment.

[Rebbasser]

Like most things in bass fishing it all comes down to confidence. If you think it helps you catch more fish then it does. If I had the $ to spend for one I'd probably get a power pole instead.

[Raul]

The principle behind the BSX is something case similar to the Color C-Lector, for those who don´t know the Color C-Lector has a lot of science behind it based on a lot of studies performed by Dr Loren Hill so it´s not a gimmick in the sense we undertand the word gimmick and it´s based on the fact that different colors are seen and can be differentiated by the fish in different ways depending upon water clarity, light penetration n´such; so in practical terms it tells you what colors fish can see best at that place/location/depth in those conditions .... but the flaw of it is: it tells you what colors fish see best not what colors fish bite best, so you end up with a pretty much useless gizmo, you don´t know if it´s really working or not, however, if you feel you need it and have confidence it will make a difference by all mean get it ............. but don´t put all your faith in it.

I have an old CC unit I inherited from a friend and he did make extensive use of it, I swear, I don´t remember a single time he caught more fish than I he using the colors the unit recomended and I using the colors I felt were right which in most cases were not the colors recomended by the unit, go figure.

So, 600 bones ? ........ uhhhh ... I´d better spend them in something else that I know will produce me more like some good rods n´reels.

[Ebbetsguy]

Hey Raul, Those old Color Selectors work, best lure retriever I have ever used. Leave the probe on, attach A snap swivel to it, and when you hang up a crank, click the snap swivel to your line and that Sensor/Probe line finds em every time, no matter what color you have on.
A Gimmick is a Gimmick no matter whats behind it or not, and that product was a Gimmick, I am surprised the Sham Wow guy has not picked it up yet!

[WTL]

OK, I am a little weak on my understanding of this unit, having never used one, but...

This thing claims to replicate the sound of fish busting shad, or some other comforting sounds that turn fish on, right?

It seems to me, this thing is a take on the old bluegill/speck trick of banging the water to stimulate activity. And if a simple thrashing of the water worked, what I am getting at is that the biosonix corp does not have a monopoly on the use of fish feeding sounds....

So what is to keep me from recording a short mp3 of various fish busting the surface, take a cheap marine sound system, put the speaker on the floor of the boat, feed the mp3 through the speakers and save my $600?

I guess there are two sucker angles with thing; 1.), we are all uncertain if it works and 2.) are we certain we cant make the same thing ourselves?

[nofearengineer]

The most effective tool of any confidence man is your optimism. The victim of a con wouldn't even listen to the con man's story unless they first believe it is possibly true. Anglers are particularly susceptible to con men simply because you have to be an optimist to be an angler, otherwise you'd have quit a long time ago.

I'll leave you with this...if scientific knowledge produced more fish, don't you think I'd be out-catching you guys? Apparently, it's a little more complicated that that.

[Tavery5]

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

I'll leave you with this...if scientific knowledge produced more fish, don't you think I'd be out-catching you guys? Apparently, it's a little more complicated that that.

Missed your point, what the heck does this mean?

[Ebbetsguy]

Originally Posted by nofearengineer

The most effective tool of any confidence man is your optimism. The victim of a con wouldn't even listen to the con man's story unless they first believe it is possibly true.
I'll leave you with this...if scientific knowledge produced more fish, don't you think I'd be out-catching you guys? Apparently, it's a little more complicated that that.

First off: The best mark for a con is a mark who believes they are slicker than the con man, first rule of the game,' Three of the five biggest investors in Madoff's pyramid, admitted, in court that they knew it was a Ponzi scheme, and analyzed when to get in and out, one of them just returned over 3 billion dollars, thought he was slicker than Madoff.

secondly: depends on how much the scientific field you are in relates to fishing.I would think that all things being equal, Raul would out fish an engineer, much the same way A Minor League pitcher could push the greatest basketball player in the world, ( Michael Jordan) out of the game by throwing him curve balls, which he cant hit. They are both athletes but in different fields, just because you can figure out a lot of the physics of fishing gear, does not mean you can understand bass or the food they feed on.

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by Tavery5

Missed your point, what the heck does this mean?

It means for all of my analyzing, and over-analyzing...I'm not catching many fish.

[Tavery5]

So stop thinking about it and do it.

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by Tavery5

So stop thinking about it and do it.

I'm trying!!!! /cries

[CMorg]

Wow NFE , I am glad to see you still on here. I havent really noticed you on here much anymore. Maybe I am just on the wrong threads..

[islandbass]

There might be something to Biosonix, but I won't be biting that hook.

I wonder what happens to a schmoe who buys one and then realizes most of the bodies of water he bass fishes in don't have shad, like mine. I bet it would still work.