My new favorite fast food -

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

Bryce, WIH did you find the turd slinger? That's outrageous..................

Come on, Bruce...bigots like me can't just give up all of our secrets...

This "thing" (I can't even call it a debate or an argument anymore, it's so fragmented) is about at an end. Most on the wrong side (and some on the right) continue to distort this issue into something it's not.

For a reminder that I am not the only one who sees it the way I do, I always like to come back to How Liberals Argue

[Dogmatic]

First WTL(William/Bill), I am sorry I didn't mean to make a blanket statement(although, a minority opinion), you make honest arguements, with sound points(that few here must not, or choose to ignore) I apologize to you, and everyone else.
I feel Mr. Cathy has every right to believe what he believes(although wrong, he has that right), and many others have the right to show support for Mr. Cathy, and their shared beliefs. But, when he funds hate groups whoms sole purpose is to deny fellow Americans equal protection under the law, then as fellow Americans we should stand up for our brothers and sisters, and boycott the source of Mr. Cathy's wealth(Chic fil a). And the LGBT community has a right to call for a boycott,(not to mention fast food is junk, and if you don't think so...look at Bryce's fat a$$). Marriage, is not just a religious institution as mentioned, but a legal one, with certain rights, and protections attached to it. Denying certain members of our society those rights because they're different than you and I , is called bigotry, and those who support it, bigots. When it comes to those rights being denied, or taken away, as mentioned earlier, in NC, or in the future(NJ), by majority vote, it is not democracy in action, but tyranny. We should never allow "majorities" to determine the rights of "minorities", otherwise, I'm sure you all know how the Women's Suffrage, or African-American experience would have had different results. I feel that is the issue, the rights of a minority, of individuals, of fellow Americans being denied by a majority(I hope it's not too distorted for you NFE). It's not about the right to believe what you want, or the right to boycott, or the "sanctity" of marriage, or even to eat fast food. Like someone said in another post, you never expect to change anyone's minds in one of these internet circle jerks, but you can only hope that maybe you might cause just one person to re-examine there values, or position. Especially one that is filled with hurtfulness, hate, fear, or just plain ignorance, and completely affects the lives of millions of fellow Americans in a negative way, and in no way affects their own beliefs, or lives. Thats what's so confounding...Why, here in America we would tolerate the denial of rights, and protections under the law for a certain minority, and not stand for the expansion of the rights of individuals, and fellow Americans in our collective pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.

[WTL]

Cathy has funded hate groups? Any links/documentation?

[Vegasspider]

I will give you credit NFE, at least you did not back pedal this time like you usually do. Are you not capable of having a debate or conversation that you don’t resort to some sort of personal attack?

How about you tell us about your wife/partner and kids? What’s that you don’t have one? Then what makes you the expert? (I will admit I am wrong if you have one)

Now you and KN go play giggle giggle.

[bassboogieman]

When it comes to those rights being denied, or taken away, as mentioned earlier, in NC, or in the future(NJ), by majority vote, it is not democracy in action, but tyranny

Dog, as you are quick to jump on some for using a dictionary, maybe you should consult one occasionally. Majority vote does not equal tryanny in any sense. To equate them does nothing to support your position. The USA is based on the Democratic principle of voting, and the majority of votes determines what happens, whether it's an election or involves legislation at any level of government, or the rules for a bass club. Tryanny in no way equates to the process here, perhaps you were thinking of Stalin, Mussoulini, Hitler, Idi Amin, Hussain, al-Assad, Amhadinejad or someone of that ilk?

How about you tell us about your wife/partner and kids?

Really man? What business is it of yours, or anyone for that matter?. Talk about cheap shots and personal attacks and just go back a couple posts for a prime example concerning fast food & weight. I wouldn't discuss family with anyone on an internet forum, it's really no one's business and really - who would be interested in my family life? This is not Oprah. I may comment on fishing topics that family members participate in, but details - nope. If an individual reveals in an open forum he has a particular deviation to the norm, anyone with a bit of common sense should realize that's not a good idea and invites comments concerning it. Motivation for doing so - I have no clue, but that OPENED the can of worms.

[I'm still convinced Z521 & Vegas are the same person and the posts as "Z521" were a deliberate, malicious attempt to stir things up. He has a penchant for starting trouble - remember Archie's comment? "Past behavior can be used to predict future behavior", kinda nails it in this instance. I don't believe Vegas is half of what he says he is - that's my opinion, like Mr. Cathy, I'm entitled to it.]

This whole thing started about a business owner expressing personal moral views on a topic, and the resulting backlash of a political fiqure, of national reputation, in an un-Constitutional and pandering manner. The support of Mr. Cathy (Chick-Fil-A) is as much about defending his right to free speech as anything else. That a democratic, liberal, pandering Mayor of a major city - publicly tramples on that right should be denounced by EVERY American. Which is the MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE here? I think that point has been lost, free speech as guaranteed under the Constitution and the seperation of Church & State, also dictated by the Constitution, applies to each and EVERY American, the other issue of "marriage rights" as it may or may not apply to same-sex couples and has taken center stage, only affects a small percentage of the population and is not nearly as important as the core issue. That it has been superceeded by the secondary issue of lesser impact, is a prime example of political spin, which diverts attention from the important issue at hand, and it's soon is lost - Mayor Emanuel will be extremey releived should that happen.

It's a damn shame some of us (I'm guilty) lost sight of it and diverted our attention to an issue totally out of synch with the original intention. That should point out the fact of how diversion from core issues happens, politicians and activists practice the tatic daily in the course of their normal activities, we should be aware of that. This thread has been an exercise that we all can take a lesson from, or not - suit yourself. Like the Honey Badger - I don't give a sh!t.

[nofearengineer]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/03...ets-him-fired/

LMAO...

[bcklash]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

[I'm still convinced Z521 & Vegas are the same person and the posts as "Z521" were a deliberate, malicious attempt to stir things up. He has a penchant for starting trouble - remember Archie's comment? "Past behavior can be used to predict future behavior", kinda nails it in this instance. I don't believe Vegas is half of what he says he is - that's my opinion, like Mr. Cathy, I'm entitled to it.]

I agree, I think they a 12 or 13 year old child hiding behind a keyboard.

[bassboogieman]

Can't fix stupid and Here's your sign, come to mind..................

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

Can't fix stupid and Here's your sign, come to mind..................

You have to wonder why someone who has risen to the level of CFO of a large business would think it would be fine to corner and berate someone making 7 bucks an hour. Must be a mental disorder...you know the one.

I forsee some fast-food drive-thru work in Mr. Smith's future.

[WTL]

Boogie, democracy CAN lead to tyranny, as the founders were well aware of. That is why we even have a Constitution.

[Jrob78]

[nobass]

Originally Posted by Jrob78

cannot argue with that

[nofearengineer]

This is merely an intellectual question, guys...NOT an entreaty to more flame wars. I just want you to stop and think about it for a second before answering.

If us arguing upsets you so much that you feel the need to post wry comments expressing how much you want us to stop...

Why do you keep reading the thread?

I consider most of you guys my friends (especially all of you whom I've actually met in person), and none of this is personal (at least for me...with others, your mileage may vary ).

After all, this is in the "non-fishing" section of the board. This is one heck of a huge election coming up. I think it's only natural that passions are hot right now.

Personally, I love a good, spirited debate. It gives me a chance to impress everyone with how smart I am.

[bcklash]

Bryce, How smart are you?

[bassboogieman]

Boogie, democracy CAN lead to tyranny, as the founders were well aware of. That is why we even have a Constitution.

That was not the issue, I said as per the original quote, they do not equate, which is how the original quote I responded to read. The instance in question, equated a majority victory via the voting processs as being equal to tryanny in which case the outcome would have been determined by dictate rather than vote. But most "tyrants" gain or seize power by means other than democratic processes and those in power tend to control their "electorial process".

But your statement is true, Germany prior to WWII is a prime example.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, appears someone may be a South Park fan.............. the MOST Politically Correct show I EVER watched.

[nofearengineer]

Democracy is nothing more than mob rule...just in between mobs.

[Jrob78]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, appears someone may be a South Park fan.............. the MOST Politically Correct show I EVER watched.

Indeed, there are some valuable lessons to be learned from the good people of South Park!

[bassboogieman]

Here's YOUR sign

[bassboogieman]

"It's comming right for us", my favorite.

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

That's pretty tame compared to a Castro parade. In San Fran, I would expect naked, but dyed like Easter Eggs....

[Jrob78]

Originally Posted by bassboogieman

"It's comming right for us", my favorite.

That's a classic!!

[WaffleJaw]

Rabble,Rabble,Rabble,Rabble,Rabble,Rabble!!!

[nofearengineer]

Originally Posted by WaffleJaw

Rabble,Rabble,Rabble,Rabble,Rabble,Rabble!!!

Someone get this man a cheeseburger, STAT!!

[bassboogieman]

I'm startin' a new South Park post - get on board we are about to offend EVERYONE.....

That's pretty tame compared to a Castro parade. In San Fran, I would expect naked, but dyed like Easter Eggs....

I may have crossed the line of good taste, but naked would cross the boundaries of decency. After all this is a "family" site.................

[Jrob78]

If we're going to offend people, there's no better place to start than here.