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Old 03-16-09, 09:27 PM   #1
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badnews and good news..

if you want the good news first you'll have to scroll down and read up..

Bad news:
no lake tomorrow.. we ran about a galon out of the gas today and it started to clear up but it kept spittin and we noticed gas comming out the "weep" hole on the fuel pump.. meaning the diaphrams bad.. and i need a fuel filter and a carb kit so we can rebuild it.. my dad is a pretty good wrencher and he said usually with that problem it wont have enough vaccum cause of the broken diaphram and the gas wont be gettin there so you have to run it with the choke on..so the diaphram may fix the spittin problem.

Good news:
Got the floor down, ran the boat outside today and the misty drizzle just ran off the wood
I've got to get those parts for the re-build.. my grandparents are goin to the doctor tomorrow and will be a couple miles away from the shop i called today that has them in stock.. so there getting the parts tomorrow.. i can put them on wedensday afternoon..
Sunday i'm going to take the boat to get the carb rebuilt [probally]. if i can get the parts on and stuff i'll try and run it in the lake friday and maybe it will only need a cleaning

hopefully everything will go as planned
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Old 03-16-09, 09:32 PM   #2
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well, pal.........sorry to hear and congrats. how's that? lmao. gotta take the bad with the good ya know? keep it up pal. you're getting there.
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Old 03-16-09, 09:42 PM   #3
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i was sooooo madddd when i found out about the diaphram..
but i'll have it in my hands tomorrow
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Old 03-19-09, 09:19 PM   #4
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update:

i'm haveing the carb cleaned/rebuilt for me & diaphram put in Sunday

new fuel lines on tomorrow.. and then we'll test it out and see if she'll run alright..

Then i've gotta get a battery and seat pedestals


but i've got a question

whats something good to fill the little gap the front two boards.. other than fiberglass?

that bondo filler? or wood filler?..
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Old 03-19-09, 09:58 PM   #5
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post a pic of the area pal. might help a bit.
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Old 03-19-09, 10:11 PM   #6
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ehh i will tomorrow.. i dont feel like goin outside to da diplomat to go get my camera..haha

idk if i even have a pic of it..
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Old 03-20-09, 08:36 PM   #7
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Well crap.. i forgot to get a pic of the front floor thing..

oh well..on to the more important stuff.

Today i didnt have plans for much, just gettin the boat all ready for taking it over to the coach's house sunday morning and i'm not going to be here tomorrow.. so i'm charging a battery gettin the new fuel lines on and stuff like that.. and my dad comes over and says, whatcha dewin?

i was like..ehh just fuel lines..
"Ya wanna mess with the carb?.."
"yeah sure.."
"get a 7/16 wrench"

and off we went..

got the carb apart, re-built and back on..

then the fuel pump off and i was told there were a couple of springs that like to jump out at ya.. well my grandpa cut his arm pretty bad yesterday on a 9" angle grinder with no guard on it so he went to the doctor and had just got back and walked to the shop when my dad opened it up and out went a spring.. we didnt know it for an hour and i had to call the marine place to make sure.

So again with the RR i found a spring that fit from the parts bin so we put it in.. and my dad said this should work alright or take the place until we get one..

and we put it back on , took it out to where we've been running it and we pumped the gas up, saw some trash come up in the sediment bowl.. and kept on pumping and gas came out the intake.... [as it did a couple years ago after it sat for 10]

and my dad and i both at the same time said..crap..thats not supposed to happen..

so i walked around to the other side..and he said.. well ..hit it and we'll see

RRVROOMM it cranks better than any car i've ever seen..

after some running we've got the jets set pretty well, but the plugs are fouled out from all the gumout treatment.. I'll be out of town tomorrow so were letting it sit and sunday i'll put in the new gas with new oil.. and probally a 32:1 instead of 24:1 but i'm not sure yet..



Heres a Reving video and yes yall were right, i did kill a few birds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DRHYn08WcE

its a whole lot better.

heres the first attempt at pull start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTyMJRRDUi0

The good o'l 1 pull start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6025NMUAlY

ohh yeah!
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Old 03-20-09, 08:45 PM   #8
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sounding a LOT better photog. smoking still, but it'll get better. don'tcha love it when it fires up right off?
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Old 03-20-09, 08:50 PM   #9
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bama, that was the coolest feeling ever.. i wasnt expecting it to run today after loosing the spring..

and then the gas pouring out the intake..

and i turn the key and it took right off..



hopefully she'll do that from now on

i may be lake-bound sunday with my dad and grandpa if i can do some convincing
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Old 03-20-09, 09:32 PM   #10
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I forgot to showsome pictures from today..



theres the smoke yall've been talking about..

now.. =|

i have a feeling that anything posted after this will include the words: buy, broke, need, replace

but i saw this after running it today..





whats wrong?
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Old 03-20-09, 10:00 PM   #11
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Ok bud first thing is on the oil to gas ratio that motor runs on a 50-1 ratio just like all the rest of the outnoards.
Second what you are seeing is the lower unit filling up with water and pushing the mixture of lower unit oil and water through a wee hole that should be only weeping WATER. Not water and lower unit oil. As I think I stated before you have some severly dried out seals in the lower unit. Right off the top of my head I am gonna say its the prop shaft seal but not being there I cant say for positive. A seal kit can be had for the lower unit and is relatively easy to install. If ya need some help locating one lemme know what year the ole motor is and I will hunt ya one down. Also I read you used Gumout, BE VERY CAREFUL using this. Its really not made for 2 stroke engines but it will work.
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Old 03-20-09, 10:03 PM   #12
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yeah i kinda thought about it but it seemed to work alright

i'll call tomorrow or monday and see if they have a whole lower unit seal kit..

what do they run?
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Old 03-21-09, 07:41 AM   #13
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phoyog....listen to ol laser pal. if he says to change out all the seals, change em all out. better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 03-21-09, 07:56 AM   #14
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old rudes it depends on the year.. as to the price.. BELIVE ME.. if you can find a place to get them. you can bet they wont be in stock...

i'll find out since i have to go and pull a 1957 rude 35 off a 1958 texas maid-tin boat- and put a 1960 chylser 75 on it today..

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Old 03-21-09, 08:05 AM   #15
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doing work for somebody? or is it yours?

i found the seals online for 20 and the impeller for 20 as well

everything i've asked for so far has been in stock..
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well they dont make a kit that old..

i've got to take the foot off.. and take it to the man. he can pressure test it and find the seal i need and he said he stocks most of the seals.. he can give me the bad one in the lower unit and my coach said we can put it on..

so i may go take it off.. is this all i have to take off? theres 4 bolts.. if i take that down is that all i have to take off? he said remove the "foot"
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Old 03-25-09, 01:24 PM   #17
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i mean to ask yall about this before.. what should i do about this?

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get a bigger pic or the area photog. if you are talking about the part where the wood is coming through, i say bondo it or glass it.
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no.. theres bilge exposed.. dont you see the foam?
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ok, so you are talking about what to do with the seam along the area where the styrofoam is correct?
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well i thought the livewell sat down next to that stringer, but it didnt. maybe i should cut a piece of wood to fit in there and measure over to the next stringer.. then just lay it in there , screw it down and glass over the crack..
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sounds good to me.
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well i havnet fixed that yet, i looked at it but opted out on it thursday.

tomorrow or tuesday i'm going to take the lower unit to florence and get it pressure and vacuum tested and get whatever seals are bad.

then it goes back on and in the water.
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it needs drive shaft seals, and a water pump.

the water pump is pitted, so he said i could get by with an impellar. one of the blades is chipped so i have to have it.


Impellar- 28 bucks
drive shaft seals- 11
gear oil plug o-ring 1buck apiece
oil.. idk

its getting picked up today, i may get it put on tomorrow and be on the water soon
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great, not too bad on the bill either i think pal. post a video fo the "maiden" voyage ok?
and crack a bottle of GRAPE JUICE on the bow before launching. "christen it".
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