Katrina

River stumps · 08-30-05, 08:07 AM

I hope every one withstood the terriable storm that came into the Gulf Coast. I've been watching the results this morn and it doesn't look good for some of you. Our prayers are with you and your families.

454ss · 08-30-05, 05:00 PM

Yea same here Evreybody be safe.

Marty · 08-30-05, 06:55 PM

They're calling it the worst natural disaster in U.S. history. I can't even begin to imagine the misery being suffered by all those people on so many fronts.

They can't read this because of power outages, but my thoughts are with them as they attempt the long and difficult task of riding this out, then rebuilding and resuming some semblance of normalcy.

lizardsrule · 08-30-05, 07:46 PM

May God bless them all, and hope for a speedy recovery for all of them.

Lizards

JB · 08-30-05, 08:33 PM

Its breaking down to survival techniques by now, after a 95 degree sunny day, the people dont have anywhere to go, no one is picking them up to shelters, they will have to live on dry roads in the city.
The looters are going ape , people are fighting over bottled water, people are getting stopped in cars trying to go north....... day 1....

WTL · 08-31-05, 01:21 PM

We just got power back in tuscaloosa yesterday, we are 200 miles from the coast but the eye came right over us. 80 mile per hour gusts with 50 sustained ripped a lot of trees out of the ground here, but I can only imagine the situation in New Orleans and the gulf coast.

Let me put it this way. The discovery channel used to show a program in which they highlighted some sadistic nerds "worst case scenarios" of natural disasters. Stuff like a hurricane hitting manhatten island, earthquake breaking california into an island - the 3rd most talked about disaster was exactly what happened monday, hurricane hitting new orleans and flooding the city, which is now happening with levee breaches. The estimiates have already put this storm over Andrew in terms of cost and over Camile in terms of lives lost, meaning this may be considered the worst hurricane to ever hit the US. What little money that the states of missisippi and loisianna made came from tourism - but the casinos are almost all gone and the french quarter is under water. The oil is still under ground but the rigs are probably gone and I havent heard how the refirneries failed.

Chum · 08-31-05, 03:48 PM

Now the rest of it is on us, 20 mph winds 90 degrees, alot of humidity. But its nothing compared to what happed in louisiana
http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/...=wxcenter_maps

454ss · 08-31-05, 04:52 PM

well the south had all its gas pipelines shut off casue of the hurrican people here are goin nuts.

bassfisher02 · 08-31-05, 05:09 PM

ya, its not a good situation over there. i heard it will be a few months till new orleans is functional again. they did luck out tho, if the storm would have hit directly, all the levees would have broke, and the city would be totally under water by more then 10 feet.

bassfisher02 · 09-01-05, 03:25 PM

now they have armed forces moving into new orleans because people are starting to riot and they are shooting at rescue helicopters and cops......its not good over there...............

flfireman · 09-01-05, 06:19 PM

I feel sorry for the lives lost and the peoples lives who have been torn apart. On the other hand, how can you feel sorry for the people that were told to leave and still stayed. I cant feel sorry for stupidity. Again, Im not being cold hearted here. I understand that some people were not capable of leaving, this is understandable. Im talking about the people that could leave and chose to stay. Now they are looting and shooting. They are shooting at the people attempting to rescue them, how can you feel sorry for these people? As for the looters, dont get me wrong, there are some that are taking diapers, baby food, canned foods- far as Im concerned, let them do this. I would kill to protect my children from harm. The people taking 10 pairs of shoes and TV's, jewelery, guns/ammo- this is not life sustaining **** here, shoot them. Sorry, watching all of this unfold is just irritating. Desperate times should bring people together to help each other, not rob and steal from them. God help all of us if this is the state of the American people now.

454ss · 09-01-05, 06:53 PM

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I feel sorry for the lives lost and the peoples lives who have been torn apart. On the other hand, how can you feel sorry for the people that were told to leave and still stayed. I cant feel sorry for stupidity. Again, Im not being cold hearted here. I understand that some people were not capable of leaving, this is understandable. Im talking about the people that could leave and chose to stay. Now they are looting and shooting. They are shooting at the people attempting to rescue them, how can you feel sorry for these people? As for the looters, dont get me wrong, there are some that are taking diapers, baby food, canned foods- far as Im concerned, let them do this. I would kill to protect my children from harm. The people taking 10 pairs of shoes and TV's, jewelery, guns/ammo- this is not life sustaining **** here, shoot them. Sorry, watching all of this unfold is just irritating. Desperate times should bring people together to help each other, not rob and steal from them. God help all of us if this is the state of the American people now.

I agree with this.

flachristopherkeene9 · 09-01-05, 09:10 PM

I feel sorry for the lives lost and the peoples lives who have been torn apart. On the other hand, how can you feel sorry for the people that were told to leave and still stayed. I cant feel sorry for stupidity. Again, Im not being cold hearted here. I understand that some people were not capable of leaving, this is understandable. Im talking about the people that could leave and chose to stay. Now they are looting and shooting. They are shooting at the people attempting to rescue them, how can you feel sorry for these people? As for the looters, dont get me wrong, there are some that are taking diapers, baby food, canned foods- far as Im concerned, let them do this. I would kill to protect my children from harm. The people taking 10 pairs of shoes and TV's, jewelery, guns/ammo- this is not life sustaining **** here, shoot them. Sorry, watching all of this unfold is just irritating. Desperate times should bring people together to help each other, not rob and steal from them. God help all of us if this is the state of the American people now.

had this discussion tonight at bible study and totally agree. They had friday, saturday, and early sunday to get out. Their stupidity now their mad at america for their own stupidity. Talk about Hypocrites (sp? sorry guys, never had to spell the word before).

Chris

09-02-05, 06:39 AM

they didnt want to leave cause they wanted to go steal things and the gangs wanted to shoot people with guns and get by with it...

bassfisher02 · 09-02-05, 05:59 PM

im sure thats not the reason they stayed rattrap. but i feel the same way. i cant feel bad for people who despite all their problems are stealing, beating, raping, and shooting at eachother. why would someone shoot at a rescue helicopter trying to save them? thats just straight up stupid. why are they beating and raping eachother? they must be stupid. if they want to act like this, i say we just stop helping and let them get by, by their selves.

lizardsrule · 09-02-05, 10:09 PM

A little insight for those of you who don't know. But New Orleans has been the murder capital of the world more than one year. It has some of the most corrupt politicians and police that money can buy. My mother lived there for several years, and I'm ecstatic to say she moved form there a few years ago. It is a ugly place at times. Not slamming the whole place just stating some things you folks may not have known. It's also basically a bowl. The whole town is built below sea level, in a bowl shape. Now you tell me who was the genius that came up with that plan. I got an idea, how about building up higher, DOH! I'm also wondering what all of the water etc... is gonna do to the fisheries, and such. They have been battling as it is over rights of ownership, and where it starts and stops. I'm also wondering how this will affect the drudging they have been discussing. Willl this leave a lot of spoiled water from the foul water. I pray all the good and decent folks get through, and the serious criminals don't make it to trial.

Lizards

HulaPopr · 09-02-05, 11:56 PM

Not a single politician in Louisiana can say that they didn't see it coming. People have known for years that if a strong hurricane hit the right spot, the city would flood and cause major problems up and down the gulf coast. The police should have taken a policy of shoot-to-kill all looters who were stealing non-survival items and were brandishing weapons of their own. If they started that the day after the storm, people would have seen that there is no messing around, and there would be much less violence and more lives saved. This also sends a terrible sign to the rest of the world, it exposed the american under-belly as not ready to handle any sudden devastation, even something like a hurricane which took several days to get there.I personally think that New Orleans should not be rebuilt where it was. They should plow over most of it, move signifigant parts of the sicty about 100mi upstream and put it about 20mi from the Mississippi. At that point, ships can still move up and down the Mississippi, but the main urban area is at a much reduced risk of flooding. the levees should be destroyed around New Orleans and the Mississippi should be allowed to go through its seasonal floods down there, which will restore the land to the bayou. Either way, New Orleans was going to be in the water eventually, whether it due to land erosion because of the levee system, or because of flooding from a major storm like Katrina. God bless all those out there helping to bring those trapped people to safety.

flachristopherkeene9 · 09-03-05, 05:00 AM

They'll never move New Orleans. There will always be a major city there no matter what. Moving it 100 mi. up and 20 mi. over will only raise our prices. and cause more problems with shipping. Ships and barges have to travelt that extra distance. then it has to be trucked into the city and then back out. TOO expensive.

Chris

HulaPopr · 09-03-05, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by christopherkeene9

They'll never move New Orleans. There will always be a major city there no matter what. Moving it 100 mi. up and 20 mi. over will only raise our prices. and cause more problems with shipping. Ships and barges have to travelt that extra distance. then it has to be trucked into the city and then back out. TOO expensive.

Chris

Not really. Have you ever been to St. Louis? There are tons and tons of barges going that far and further up the Mississippi. No matter what they do, New Orleans is a disaster waiting to happen. The Lousisiana bayou is disappearing because the mississippi isn't allowed to spill over its banks due to its levees and deposit silt onto the area around there. Either way, if New Orleans is left where it is, it will eventually be gone. Might as weel move it now while most of it is destroyed and move it to a safer place.

bassfisher02 · 09-03-05, 11:08 AM

this event kinda reminds me of when god flooded the earth. to cleanse all the sinners. like liz said that is the number one murder area, maybe this hurricane was sent for that purpose. not saying that everyone that lives there deserves what has happened, but there are alot that do. i dont think the city should be rebuilt. i think the buildings should be destroyed, the area cleaned, then let the levees down and let it flood over. like a lost city or something. thats alot of good structure for fishing, and years from now it could be a tourist attraction. i like hulas idea, rebuild the city further up the mississippi, and more inland.

454ss · 09-03-05, 12:28 PM

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this event kinda reminds me of when god flooded the earth. to cleanse all the sinners. like liz said that is the number one murder area, maybe this hurricane was sent for that purpose. not saying that everyone that lives there deserves what has happened, but there are alot that do. i dont think the city should be rebuilt. i think the buildings should be destroyed, the area cleaned, then let the levees down and let it flood over. like a lost city or something. thats alot of good structure for fishing, and years from now it could be a tourist attraction. i like hulas idea, rebuild the city further up the mississippi, and more inland.

Yea i agree with yall also becasue seems like this would be much easier. I also agree that this hurricane was sent there on purpose.

jbfisher · 09-06-05, 05:33 PM

It kind of reminds me of the bible story Saudum and Gumara.(spelling may be wrong). Im sure some of you know this story. God destroyed the whole city and warned the good people of the city to get out. Im wandering if this could be happening for a reason. New Orleans is a wicked town. With its Voo Doo, Mardi Gras, and cussing mayor. Im not sure if you heard it on tv, but the mayor was saying The "G-D" word on the phone. Stuff like voodoo, and people showing thereselves off at mardi gras, is wicked. Im not saying everyone in New Orleans deserved it, but I could care less if that wicked town was ever built back or moved. A forsaken place such as new orleans deserved no such mercy. I pray for those people every day, and i know there are some good people there, but did all of this happen for a reason? I think so.

08-30-05, 08:07 AM	#1
River stumps BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Va Posts: 246	Katrina I hope every one withstood the terriable storm that came into the Gulf Coast. I've been watching the results this morn and it doesn't look good for some of you. Our prayers are with you and your families.

08-30-05, 06:55 PM	#3
Marty BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,580	They're calling it the worst natural disaster in U.S. history. I can't even begin to imagine the misery being suffered by all those people on so many fronts. They can't read this because of power outages, but my thoughts are with them as they attempt the long and difficult task of riding this out, then rebuilding and resuming some semblance of normalcy. __________________ Meeting expenses is easy...they're EVERYWHERE The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits Rochester, NY

08-30-05, 07:46 PM	#4
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	May God bless them all, and hope for a speedy recovery for all of them. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

08-31-05, 01:21 PM	#6
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	We just got power back in tuscaloosa yesterday, we are 200 miles from the coast but the eye came right over us. 80 mile per hour gusts with 50 sustained ripped a lot of trees out of the ground here, but I can only imagine the situation in New Orleans and the gulf coast. Let me put it this way. The discovery channel used to show a program in which they highlighted some sadistic nerds "worst case scenarios" of natural disasters. Stuff like a hurricane hitting manhatten island, earthquake breaking california into an island - the 3rd most talked about disaster was exactly what happened monday, hurricane hitting new orleans and flooding the city, which is now happening with levee breaches. The estimiates have already put this storm over Andrew in terms of cost and over Camile in terms of lives lost, meaning this may be considered the worst hurricane to ever hit the US. What little money that the states of missisippi and loisianna made came from tourism - but the casinos are almost all gone and the french quarter is under water. The oil is still under ground but the rigs are probably gone and I havent heard how the refirneries failed. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

08-31-05, 05:09 PM	#9
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	ya, its not a good situation over there. i heard it will be a few months till new orleans is functional again. they did luck out tho, if the storm would have hit directly, all the levees would have broke, and the city would be totally under water by more then 10 feet. __________________ Good Fishin'

08-30-05, 05:00 PM	#2
454ss BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glennville,GA Posts: 615	Yea same here Evreybody be safe.

08-30-05, 08:33 PM	#5
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	Its breaking down to survival techniques by now, after a 95 degree sunny day, the people dont have anywhere to go, no one is picking them up to shelters, they will have to live on dry roads in the city. The looters are going ape , people are fighting over bottled water, people are getting stopped in cars trying to go north....... day 1....

08-31-05, 03:48 PM	#7
Chum BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Granby, CT Posts: 45	Now the rest of it is on us, 20 mph winds 90 degrees, alot of humidity. But its nothing compared to what happed in louisiana http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/...=wxcenter_maps

08-31-05, 04:52 PM	#8
454ss BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glennville,GA Posts: 615	well the south had all its gas pipelines shut off casue of the hurrican people here are goin nuts.

09-01-05, 03:25 PM	#10
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	now they have armed forces moving into new orleans because people are starting to riot and they are shooting at rescue helicopters and cops......its not good over there............... __________________ Good Fishin'

09-01-05, 06:19 PM	#11
flfireman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 2,751	I feel sorry for the lives lost and the peoples lives who have been torn apart. On the other hand, how can you feel sorry for the people that were told to leave and still stayed. I cant feel sorry for stupidity. Again, Im not being cold hearted here. I understand that some people were not capable of leaving, this is understandable. Im talking about the people that could leave and chose to stay. Now they are looting and shooting. They are shooting at the people attempting to rescue them, how can you feel sorry for these people? As for the looters, dont get me wrong, there are some that are taking diapers, baby food, canned foods- far as Im concerned, let them do this. I would kill to protect my children from harm. The people taking 10 pairs of shoes and TV's, jewelery, guns/ammo- this is not life sustaining **** here, shoot them. Sorry, watching all of this unfold is just irritating. Desperate times should bring people together to help each other, not rob and steal from them. God help all of us if this is the state of the American people now. __________________ In the Lord all things are possible.

09-01-05, 09:10 PM	#13
flachristopherkeene9 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 516	I feel sorry for the lives lost and the peoples lives who have been torn apart. On the other hand, how can you feel sorry for the people that were told to leave and still stayed. I cant feel sorry for stupidity. Again, Im not being cold hearted here. I understand that some people were not capable of leaving, this is understandable. Im talking about the people that could leave and chose to stay. Now they are looting and shooting. They are shooting at the people attempting to rescue them, how can you feel sorry for these people? As for the looters, dont get me wrong, there are some that are taking diapers, baby food, canned foods- far as Im concerned, let them do this. I would kill to protect my children from harm. The people taking 10 pairs of shoes and TV's, jewelery, guns/ammo- this is not life sustaining **** here, shoot them. Sorry, watching all of this unfold is just irritating. Desperate times should bring people together to help each other, not rob and steal from them. God help all of us if this is the state of the American people now. had this discussion tonight at bible study and totally agree. They had friday, saturday, and early sunday to get out. Their stupidity now their mad at america for their own stupidity. Talk about Hypocrites (sp? sorry guys, never had to spell the word before). Chris

09-02-05, 06:39 AM	#14
rattrap Guest Posts: n/a	they didnt want to leave cause they wanted to go steal things and the gangs wanted to shoot people with guns and get by with it...

09-02-05, 05:59 PM	#15
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	im sure thats not the reason they stayed rattrap. but i feel the same way. i cant feel bad for people who despite all their problems are stealing, beating, raping, and shooting at eachother. why would someone shoot at a rescue helicopter trying to save them? thats just straight up stupid. why are they beating and raping eachother? they must be stupid. if they want to act like this, i say we just stop helping and let them get by, by their selves. __________________ Good Fishin'

09-02-05, 10:09 PM	#16
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	A little insight for those of you who don't know. But New Orleans has been the murder capital of the world more than one year. It has some of the most corrupt politicians and police that money can buy. My mother lived there for several years, and I'm ecstatic to say she moved form there a few years ago. It is a ugly place at times. Not slamming the whole place just stating some things you folks may not have known. It's also basically a bowl. The whole town is built below sea level, in a bowl shape. Now you tell me who was the genius that came up with that plan. I got an idea, how about building up higher, DOH! I'm also wondering what all of the water etc... is gonna do to the fisheries, and such. They have been battling as it is over rights of ownership, and where it starts and stops. I'm also wondering how this will affect the drudging they have been discussing. Willl this leave a lot of spoiled water from the foul water. I pray all the good and decent folks get through, and the serious criminals don't make it to trial. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

09-02-05, 11:56 PM	#17
HulaPopr BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,282	Not a single politician in Louisiana can say that they didn't see it coming. People have known for years that if a strong hurricane hit the right spot, the city would flood and cause major problems up and down the gulf coast. The police should have taken a policy of shoot-to-kill all looters who were stealing non-survival items and were brandishing weapons of their own. If they started that the day after the storm, people would have seen that there is no messing around, and there would be much less violence and more lives saved. This also sends a terrible sign to the rest of the world, it exposed the american under-belly as not ready to handle any sudden devastation, even something like a hurricane which took several days to get there.I personally think that New Orleans should not be rebuilt where it was. They should plow over most of it, move signifigant parts of the sicty about 100mi upstream and put it about 20mi from the Mississippi. At that point, ships can still move up and down the Mississippi, but the main urban area is at a much reduced risk of flooding. the levees should be destroyed around New Orleans and the Mississippi should be allowed to go through its seasonal floods down there, which will restore the land to the bayou. Either way, New Orleans was going to be in the water eventually, whether it due to land erosion because of the levee system, or because of flooding from a major storm like Katrina. God bless all those out there helping to bring those trapped people to safety. __________________ Orland, FL To do list: catch a bass on a c-rig catch a bass on a swimbait

09-03-05, 05:00 AM	#18
flachristopherkeene9 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 516	They'll never move New Orleans. There will always be a major city there no matter what. Moving it 100 mi. up and 20 mi. over will only raise our prices. and cause more problems with shipping. Ships and barges have to travelt that extra distance. then it has to be trucked into the city and then back out. TOO expensive. Chris

09-03-05, 11:08 AM	#20
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	this event kinda reminds me of when god flooded the earth. to cleanse all the sinners. like liz said that is the number one murder area, maybe this hurricane was sent for that purpose. not saying that everyone that lives there deserves what has happened, but there are alot that do. i dont think the city should be rebuilt. i think the buildings should be destroyed, the area cleaned, then let the levees down and let it flood over. like a lost city or something. thats alot of good structure for fishing, and years from now it could be a tourist attraction. i like hulas idea, rebuild the city further up the mississippi, and more inland. __________________ Good Fishin'

09-06-05, 05:33 PM	#22
jbfisher BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London, KY Posts: 61	It kind of reminds me of the bible story Saudum and Gumara.(spelling may be wrong). Im sure some of you know this story. God destroyed the whole city and warned the good people of the city to get out. Im wandering if this could be happening for a reason. New Orleans is a wicked town. With its Voo Doo, Mardi Gras, and cussing mayor. Im not sure if you heard it on tv, but the mayor was saying The "G-D" word on the phone. Stuff like voodoo, and people showing thereselves off at mardi gras, is wicked. Im not saying everyone in New Orleans deserved it, but I could care less if that wicked town was ever built back or moved. A forsaken place such as new orleans deserved no such mercy. I pray for those people every day, and i know there are some good people there, but did all of this happen for a reason? I think so.

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