OK, I’ll jump in, SARAH PALIN

[WTL]

Originally Posted by 1/4 stick

When it comes to abortion, and many other things, the government needs to get out of our private lives. That's a choice that should be made by the mother and posibly the father if she is inclined to include him. That's between her, the baby, the father and God, and the mother's parents depending on her age. However, the government shouldn't pay for it either except for the possible case where the mother's life is in danger.

Politics in my opinion is really a moot point. The elections are bought and paid for long before they ever start campaigning. All those election booths a rallies are just feel good parties to give people the delusion that they've actually done something worthwhile.

As far as Obama and Pailin, they are both jokes. Bambam may have a better education, but when things are boiled down he's as big a goofball as she is.

It all hinges on what a fetus is. If it is human, there is no way to say that government should stay out.

[1/4 stick]

Originally Posted by WTL

It all hinges on what a fetus is. If it is human, there is no way to say that government should stay out.

So let's say it's decided that life begins at conception and it becomes illegal to abort a pregnancy. They'll find a way to do it, in a back alley or in the closet with the do it themself kit. Then you have two lives gone or more money invested in the girl's medical bills from repairing a botched abortion.

If you're going to say that the government is going into the buisness of protecting human lives then we need to start dismantling the military as well.

[WTL]

Originally Posted by 1/4 stick

So let's say it's decided that life begins at conception and it becomes illegal to abort a pregnancy. They'll find a way to do it, in a back alley or in the closet with the do it themself kit. Then you have two lives gone or more money invested in the girl's medical bills from repairing a botched abortion.

Don' t begin to talk about money when life is involved. Life is priceless.

Saying that they would do it anyway does not mean its right, nor is it an argument for its legality if it is truly wrong and against human rights. People murder anyway, but it still should be against the law. Just because it is difficult to enforce, doesn't mean that we should give up on an issue such as human life.

Also as a side note, RU 486 made coathangers obsolete. There will be almost no back alley abortions if it is made illegal.

Originally Posted by 1/4 stick

If you're going to say that the government is going into the buisness of protecting human lives then we need to start dismantling the military as well.

Government is in the business of creating law. The laws are created to re-enforce patterns of behavior or protect personal rights. The law against murder protects a human right.

Peacetime laws do not exist in war between combatants. War is fought beyond the scope of normal law. So your example does not work.

[1/4 stick]

Originally Posted by WTL

Don' t begin to talk about money when life is involved. Life is priceless.

Saying that they would do it anyway does not mean its right, nor is it an argument for its legality if it is truly wrong and against human rights. People murder anyway, but it still should be against the law. Just because it is difficult to enforce, doesn't mean that we should give up on an issue such as human life.

Also as a side note, RU 486 made coathangers obsolete. There will be almost no back alley abortions if it is made illegal.




Government is in the business of creating law. The laws are created to re-enforce patterns of behavior or protect personal rights. The law against murder protects a human right.

Peacetime laws do not exist in war between combatants. War is fought beyond the scope of normal law. So your example does not work.

At least until it can be scientificly proven exactly when life begins, it's still a grey area as to if it's murder or not, (Legally that is). And killing is still killing no matter what scope it is in.

I have no clue what RU 486 is. lol
What makes you think every woman/girl with an unwanted pregnancy is going to know about it or how to get it?