Kramers RANT

JB · 11-21-06, 11:03 AM

click he's in the news bigtime (adult content warning for use of the N word)

betursweetbass · 11-21-06, 12:05 PM

Such is life, one day your on top of the world, next, you're apologizing for your conduct. People will always make mistakes, I know I've made my share. Too bad he couldn't take out his frustrations on a running light huh?

ToPwAt'R GuY · 11-21-06, 11:27 PM

I think people are making more of this than it is. I know he did wrong but he apologized. I think that should have been the end of it.

dampeoples · 11-22-06, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToPwAt'R GuY

I think people are making more of this than it is. I know he did wrong but he apologized. I think that should have been the end of it.

It would be if it were you or me, but that's the price you pay when you're a household name.

adamgambill · 11-22-06, 05:30 PM

Dude gets "called out" for heckling. I say he has no reason to be aggrivated. He did call him a cracker. I hate double standards. Also does this not infringe on 1st ammendment rights? Its just like the banning of the rebel flag in some school in Houston. Who is to say im not offended by a Malcom X t-shirt or one of them colored dresses they wear. Im no racist, but I think people need to pay more attention to more important things than petty bullshyt like this. For christs sake it on national news while we are at war, in a financial downslide, and crack dealers and pedophiles run amuck on the streets. I just dont understand how people can get so upset over something so minute. I cant say all the names I have been called, and not once can I remember getting that bent out of shape.

flfireman · 11-26-06, 01:33 AM

WRONG??? Probably. But to defend him. Look at all the comedy shows on TV, cable, pay per view, etc.. I watch them on occasion, but usually end up Pd off. If I were to go on stage and reverse their jokes, I would be labeled as a racist. Yet, they can spew these things w/o any backlash. There is a double standard and unfortunately if you are famous it get's worse. Again, I feel he was wrong to a certain degree. By the way my wording of "they" or "them" is not singling out one particular race. I watch many comedians of many races rag or bad mouth other races. It just seems if the person is white, he automatically becomes a racist. Im sorry, I feel this whole race thing has gotten blown way out of proportion in our modern day society.

Bo Dale James Jr. · 11-26-06, 10:10 AM

I see where the "victims" have lawyered up and apparently will feel much better if he gives them some cash, hmmm sounds like something the Eagles might sing about..

Vabass22 · 11-26-06, 12:21 PM

I cant beleive that. I'm not going to get into all this but to say that suff in public, on caamera is messed up.

JB · 11-27-06, 12:47 PM

Hey,

I'm trying to make a buck off of Kramers "mis cue"..heres some painting and Tshirts for sale...any takers? rofl

or better yet.....

all profits will go to the Take a Kid Fishing Foundation

Wishing2BFishing · 11-27-06, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flfireman

WRONG??? Probably. But to defend him. Look at all the comedy shows on TV, cable, pay per view, etc.. I watch them on occasion, but usually end up Pd off. If I were to go on stage and reverse their jokes, I would be labeled as a racist. Yet, they can spew these things w/o any backlash. There is a double standard and unfortunately if you are famous it get's worse. Again, I feel he was wrong to a certain degree. By the way my wording of "they" or "them" is not singling out one particular race. I watch many comedians of many races rag or bad mouth other races. It just seems if the person is white, he automatically becomes a racist. Im sorry, I feel this whole race thing has gotten blown way out of proportion in our modern day society.

flfireman, I agree. Well said.

scrap · 11-27-06, 02:01 PM

first, i would like to say that the media, cnn, fox, cbs, nbc, abc, all of them look for a circus. when nothing of importance is going on, they all go looking down the food chain for anything that might catch the eye of the listener. too bad there was nothing more newsworthy going on to upstage kramer's snafu. ok, it was not professional of him to go into a tirade of blasting blacks. it could have been the first time kramer was in a situation where the crowd taunted and ridiculed him. his reaction was one of getting back at them, somehow. we all have had a meltdown in our lives and have said or done something we painfully regret, whether it be running someone off the road or breaking your first girlfriend's heart. the list would go on. kramer said he was sorry, IT HAPPENED, GET OVER IT, MOVE ON...... the man was trying to make a living, those in the crowd should have respected him and been courteous. he did not start out being rude, crude and hateful. let's hope another cirucs develops quickly so kramer can get off the hot seat. oh, did i see a football player give the fans the "finger" yesterday. hurrah. as a person in this forum already said, there is so much in this world going on. i think GI's dying is a matter deserves this country's the most attention........can't this country get anything right once in a while and home in on the important things. it is ok to diagree with my thoughts, i always look forward to understanding how another person feels about matters. i might learn something and that ain't bad.

Bender · 11-28-06, 10:06 PM

I thought this was funny, a Seinfeld episode based on the rant:
http://zine.nationallampoon.com/inde...=247&Itemid=32
Note, language since it includes the original video.

DEbass'n · 11-29-06, 11:28 AM

Although i agree that it was wrong, there is a double standard. The guys called him a cracker and nothing was said, but as soon as the "N" word came out of his mouth Jesse Jackson gets involved. It is bull in my opinion. He went on Jacksons radio show and apologized. He tried to get in touch with the men to apologize and they won't talk to him. Now they get lawyers and say all they want is an apology. He has apologized many times to people he really doesn't have to apologize to. Even Don Cheadle said that the media is making too big a deal about it. He has apologized so everyone needs to drop it. I am not racist in any way (i have three colored tv's

); but i say he has said he is sorry, so lets move on.

dampeoples · 11-29-06, 06:21 PM

You crackers all need to relax.

CarpMan · 11-29-06, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dampeoples

You crackers all need to relax.

WTL · 11-29-06, 06:36 PM

I didn't think it was that big of a deal until I saw the video. I mean Kramer flipped out there, yelling HE'S A N_____, HE'S A N______!

I wouldn't even watch the end of the video. Nothing he could have said after that. I'm not sensitive about race at all, but that is a comedy club and what Kramer was saying had no semblemce of humor. I had heard a while back that the fellow was in reality disturbed, and that seems to be the case.

Rodman_Rob · 12-01-06, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bender

I thought this was funny, a Seinfeld episode based on the rant:
http://zine.nationallampoon.com/inde...=247&Itemid=32
Note, language since it includes the original video.

omg, that's funny.

Vabass22 · 12-01-06, 08:39 PM

I agree with what WTL said. Being in a mostly white school, and seeing all the racism, and hate to blacks, and other races really makes me mad. Yesterday, a kid at my school drew a picture of a black person being hung, and screamed white power. Its getting out of control, especially with calling the mexicans "Beaners".

flbassman · 12-01-06, 09:12 PM

It gets ugly quick when people pull the race card.... We should just all get along. I don't consider myself a racist at all, I just have a problem with "ganstas" whether black, white or hispanic......

CMorg · 12-01-06, 09:55 PM

I thought this was funny, a Seinfeld episode based on the rant:
http://zine.nationallampoon.com/inde...=247&Itemid=32
Note, language since it includes the original video

Just plain funny , sorry.... but it is.

CMorg · 12-01-06, 10:00 PM

I just now watched the link posted first.. he was definately off his rocker id say. However if it werent for him seinfeld wouldnt have been half as funny IMO.

WTL · 12-01-06, 11:05 PM

CMorg, that National Lampoon thing was incredible. They really did a good job. What is amazing was how well the Seinfeld clips meshed. And that he kept talking about monkeys, I mean its wrong but it is a common racial slur and it made it even funnier.

Christopherkeene9 · 12-01-06, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flbassman

It gets ugly quick when people pull the race card.... We should just all get along. I don't consider myself a racist at all, I just have a problem with "ganstas" whether black, white or hispanic......

Agreed here Fl, I go to a school where have the pop. is "Gangsta". It's real old and I ain't gonna go into how I feel about it as I probably will get booted!

11-21-06, 11:03 AM	#1
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	Kramers RANT click he's in the news bigtime (adult content warning for use of the N word)

11-22-06, 05:30 PM	#5
adamgambill BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Columbia, TX Posts: 375	Dude gets "called out" for heckling. I say he has no reason to be aggrivated. He did call him a cracker. I hate double standards. Also does this not infringe on 1st ammendment rights? Its just like the banning of the rebel flag in some school in Houston. Who is to say im not offended by a Malcom X t-shirt or one of them colored dresses they wear. Im no racist, but I think people need to pay more attention to more important things than petty bullshyt like this. For christs sake it on national news while we are at war, in a financial downslide, and crack dealers and pedophiles run amuck on the streets. I just dont understand how people can get so upset over something so minute. I cant say all the names I have been called, and not once can I remember getting that bent out of shape. __________________ Anyone who has a problem with getting a truck dirty shoul trade for a Volkswagon and a pair of panties.

11-26-06, 01:33 AM	#6
flfireman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 2,751	WRONG??? Probably. But to defend him. Look at all the comedy shows on TV, cable, pay per view, etc.. I watch them on occasion, but usually end up Pd off. If I were to go on stage and reverse their jokes, I would be labeled as a racist. Yet, they can spew these things w/o any backlash. There is a double standard and unfortunately if you are famous it get's worse. Again, I feel he was wrong to a certain degree. By the way my wording of "they" or "them" is not singling out one particular race. I watch many comedians of many races rag or bad mouth other races. It just seems if the person is white, he automatically becomes a racist. Im sorry, I feel this whole race thing has gotten blown way out of proportion in our modern day society. __________________ In the Lord all things are possible.

11-26-06, 10:10 AM	#7
Bo Dale James Jr. BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jerseyville,IL Posts: 596	I see where the "victims" have lawyered up and apparently will feel much better if he gives them some cash, hmmm sounds like something the Eagles might sing about.. __________________ *Got time to breathe, got time to fish!*

11-27-06, 12:47 PM	#9
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	Update! Hey, I'm trying to make a buck off of Kramers "mis cue"..heres some painting and Tshirts for sale...any takers? rofl or better yet..... all profits will go to the Take a Kid Fishing Foundation

11-21-06, 12:05 PM	#2
betursweetbass BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 646	Such is life, one day your on top of the world, next, you're apologizing for your conduct. People will always make mistakes, I know I've made my share. Too bad he couldn't take out his frustrations on a running light huh?

11-21-06, 11:27 PM	#3
ToPwAt'R GuY BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 930	I think people are making more of this than it is. I know he did wrong but he apologized. I think that should have been the end of it.

11-26-06, 12:21 PM	#8
Vabass22 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern Va Posts: 1,120	I cant beleive that. I'm not going to get into all this but to say that suff in public, on caamera is messed up.

11-27-06, 02:01 PM	#11
scrap BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 217	kramer first, i would like to say that the media, cnn, fox, cbs, nbc, abc, all of them look for a circus. when nothing of importance is going on, they all go looking down the food chain for anything that might catch the eye of the listener. too bad there was nothing more newsworthy going on to upstage kramer's snafu. ok, it was not professional of him to go into a tirade of blasting blacks. it could have been the first time kramer was in a situation where the crowd taunted and ridiculed him. his reaction was one of getting back at them, somehow. we all have had a meltdown in our lives and have said or done something we painfully regret, whether it be running someone off the road or breaking your first girlfriend's heart. the list would go on. kramer said he was sorry, IT HAPPENED, GET OVER IT, MOVE ON...... the man was trying to make a living, those in the crowd should have respected him and been courteous. he did not start out being rude, crude and hateful. let's hope another cirucs develops quickly so kramer can get off the hot seat. oh, did i see a football player give the fans the "finger" yesterday. hurrah. as a person in this forum already said, there is so much in this world going on. i think GI's dying is a matter deserves this country's the most attention........can't this country get anything right once in a while and home in on the important things. it is ok to diagree with my thoughts, i always look forward to understanding how another person feels about matters. i might learn something and that ain't bad.

11-28-06, 10:06 PM	#12
Bender BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 2,414	I thought this was funny, a Seinfeld episode based on the rant: http://zine.nationallampoon.com/inde...=247&Itemid=32 Note, language since it includes the original video.

11-29-06, 11:28 AM	#13
DEbass'n BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Laurel, DE Posts: 156	Although i agree that it was wrong, there is a double standard. The guys called him a cracker and nothing was said, but as soon as the "N" word came out of his mouth Jesse Jackson gets involved. It is bull in my opinion. He went on Jacksons radio show and apologized. He tried to get in touch with the men to apologize and they won't talk to him. Now they get lawyers and say all they want is an apology. He has apologized many times to people he really doesn't have to apologize to. Even Don Cheadle said that the media is making too big a deal about it. He has apologized so everyone needs to drop it. I am not racist in any way (i have three colored tv's ); but i say he has said he is sorry, so lets move on. __________________ A bad day of fishing is better than a good day at work, unless fishing is your work!!!

11-29-06, 06:21 PM	#14
dampeoples BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 826	You crackers all need to relax. __________________ The Jon Boat Fishing Club and Fishing with Sterling Peoples

11-29-06, 06:36 PM	#16
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	I didn't think it was that big of a deal until I saw the video. I mean Kramer flipped out there, yelling HE'S A N_____, HE'S A N______! I wouldn't even watch the end of the video. Nothing he could have said after that. I'm not sensitive about race at all, but that is a comedy club and what Kramer was saying had no semblemce of humor. I had heard a while back that the fellow was in reality disturbed, and that seems to be the case. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

12-01-06, 08:39 PM	#18
Vabass22 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern Va Posts: 1,120	I agree with what WTL said. Being in a mostly white school, and seeing all the racism, and hate to blacks, and other races really makes me mad. Yesterday, a kid at my school drew a picture of a black person being hung, and screamed white power. Its getting out of control, especially with calling the mexicans "Beaners".

12-01-06, 09:12 PM	#19
flbassman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 2,840	It gets ugly quick when people pull the race card.... We should just all get along. I don't consider myself a racist at all, I just have a problem with "ganstas" whether black, white or hispanic...... __________________ R.I.P. Zooker

12-01-06, 09:55 PM	#20
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	I thought this was funny, a Seinfeld episode based on the rant: http://zine.nationallampoon.com/inde...=247&Itemid=32 Note, language since it includes the original video Just plain funny , sorry.... but it is.

12-01-06, 10:00 PM	#21
CMorg BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern , IN Posts: 1,832	I just now watched the link posted first.. he was definately off his rocker id say. However if it werent for him seinfeld wouldnt have been half as funny IMO.

12-01-06, 11:05 PM	#22
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	CMorg, that National Lampoon thing was incredible. They really did a good job. What is amazing was how well the Seinfeld clips meshed. And that he kept talking about monkeys, I mean its wrong but it is a common racial slur and it made it even funnier. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

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