Come on weather man, please be right!

Bassboss · 03-12-11, 02:19 PM

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USWI0628

Weathers looking nice for the next 10 days, that rain's hopefully gonna help melt the snow and ice. Even though bass season's not till may, trout, crappie and northers are in the same lakes as bass with open seasons.

MIbasser · 03-12-11, 02:59 PM

I know it's none of my business what you do, but come on. Do you think that CO's are really that stupid? I know people tried that in MI and they were given tickets. I've also heard that they are going to be enforcing it more this year. If WI is anything like MI, then I do hope you get a ticket. It would really suck to hear you lost your right to fish because you thought it would be "cool" to get out early.

If you do go, don't post about it. I'm not a fan, and I hope that Kevin isn't a fan of people bragging about breaking the law, because that is what you will be doing.

WatterBoy · 03-12-11, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassboss

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USWI0628

Weathers looking nice for the next 10 days, that rain's hopefully gonna help melt the snow and ice. Even though bass season's not till may, trout, crappie and northers are in the same lakes as bass with open seasons. So maybe a couple "woops" bass will come with them.

For "general inland waters" in WI, there is definitely a season for Northern Pike also, and it doesn't open until May 7. What regulations are you looking at?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIbasser

I know it's none of my business what you do, but come on. Do you think that CO's are really that stupid? I know people tried that in MI and they were given tickets. I've also heard that they are going to be enforcing it more this year. If WI is anything like MI, then I do hope you get a ticket. It would really suck to hear you lost your right to fish because you thought it would be "cool" to get out early.

If you do go, don't post about it. I'm not a fan, and I hope that Kevin isn't a fan of people bragging about breaking the law, because that is what you will be doing.

Ditto to all of what you said, MIbasser, except I think it is our business. Fishermen (and hunters) who break the law, especially knowingly, give all the rest of us who don't a bad name. I subscribe to a weekly newspaper called "Outdoor News" and in every issue there is a "Cuffs & Collars" page with reports from DNR conservation officers from all 18 districts in MN. The number of completely idiotic things done by outdoorsmen is embarrassing.

Bassboss · 03-12-11, 07:29 PM

Thanks guys, you're right, I saw that about the pike a while ago I won't be fishing for them, that's for sure. I'll definitely be only fishing for trout for trout, though once I get tags and all the stuff.

Abbeysdad · 03-12-11, 07:30 PM

Lighten up some...I heard there's actually people that cut holes in the ice and set up huts to fish - Go figure - mostly fanatics I think

Cavs1123 · 03-12-11, 08:27 PM

Moarch 20-27 is supposed to have 3 days in 60's and 4 in the 50's!

Bassboss · 03-12-11, 10:53 PM

Hmm... Biggins brought this photo to my attention.

http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/images/basszonedef.gif (thanks biggins)

According to this, http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/seasons/bass.htm

The southern zone has only a season for harvest. Or at least it does not mention a C&R season.

MIbasser · 03-12-11, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassboss

Hmm... Biggins brought this photo to my attention.

http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/images/basszonedef.gif (thanks biggins)

According to this, http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/seasons/bass.htm

The southern zone has only a season for harvest. Or at least it does not mention a C&R season.

Correct. You do not have a C&R in the lower, but the season doesn't open until the first Saturday in May. The same time the C&R season opens for the North. Typcially this is done because the fish spawn later in the year the farther north you go (colder water).

Bassboss · 03-13-11, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIbasser

Correct. You do not have a C&R in the lower, but the season doesn't open until the first Saturday in May. The same time the C&R season opens for the North. Typcially this is done because the fish spawn later in the year the farther north you go (colder water).

haha, that's relieving!

nofearengineer · 03-13-11, 01:24 PM

I certainly don't recommend that Sammy break the law, but again I'll chime in on how stupid the laws are in Wisconsin. Just more government control by a few leftist, elitist wackos. Just like "fly only" streams and rivers.

You can't fish 6 months a year...sounds like paradise.

As is often the case, the hypocrisy is staggering. Those who swear by C & R in other places, for some reason think it would kill all of the fish in Wisconsin during the cold months. The policy is clear...require C & R in places they figure the population will refuse not to fish, and outlaw fishing altogether where they think (and obviously rightly so) they can get away with it. The reason they get away with it in Wisconsin is because everybody wants walleye up there. If they tried this crap with walleye, they'd get booted out.

I think most fishing regulations represent the angling population's willingness to wear a collar, not the fish stocks' need to be regulated.

I would love to see some evidence of how the bass population was on the verge of extinction before these ridiculous seasons were put into effect.

cassidyta · 03-14-11, 05:51 PM

Bryce,

The only thing I can think of is the concern with cold water fish being caught so deep.
Here is an article that speaks about bass mortality rate in deep waters. I do not say that this is scientific fact, but it is a theory on why the law "might: exist.

http://kramergonefishing.com/2011/02...ats-the-scoop/

nofearengineer · 03-14-11, 06:19 PM

You are right about deep water winter mortality. I know even here in Indiana, people will ask you to be smart and keep any crappie you catch, as they are usually caught in 40 feet of water, and they will not survive the pressure change at their metabolism level. I bring crappie up because that is what we southern Hoosiers fish for in Winter, not having a lot of walleye.

I do have a question though....in a state like that where so many people ice fish, what happens to the bass caught through the hole? Obviously, you can not pick and choose what bites your lure. Do all of those fish get a death sentence? I'm surprised they don't ban ice fishing too.

cassidyta · 03-14-11, 06:22 PM

Good question that I have no real answer for.

Only guessing here, but perhaps they figure that there are few enough bass being targeted with ice fishing to allow it.

I am by no means saying that it is right or wrong, just a guess.

Jrok · 03-15-11, 11:13 AM

"I do have a question though....in a state like that where so many people ice fish, what happens to the bass caught through the hole? Obviously, you can not pick and choose what bites your lure. Do all of those fish get a death sentence? I'm surprised they don't ban ice fishing too."

I have caught bass through the ice, every year I go out actually. However I never target them, it just happens. Also the lakes I fish are usually less than 20 feet so they go back just fine. When they are hungry, they will bite I guess.
Hopefully everyone else releases them also.

03-12-11, 02:19 PM	#1
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Come on weather man, please be right! http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USWI0628 Weathers looking nice for the next 10 days, that rain's hopefully gonna help melt the snow and ice. Even though bass season's not till may, trout, crappie and northers are in the same lakes as bass with open seasons. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die. Last edited by Bassboss; 03-12-11 at 07:29 PM.

03-12-11, 07:29 PM	#4
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Thanks guys, you're right, I saw that about the pike a while ago I won't be fishing for them, that's for sure. I'll definitely be only fishing for trout for trout, though once I get tags and all the stuff. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

03-12-11, 07:30 PM	#5
Abbeysdad BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central NY - Finger Lakes Posts: 1,307	Lighten up some...I heard there's actually people that cut holes in the ice and set up huts to fish - Go figure - mostly fanatics I think __________________ Fish now, work later

03-12-11, 08:27 PM	#6
Cavs1123 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bellevue, Ohio Posts: 1,398	Moarch 20-27 is supposed to have 3 days in 60's and 4 in the 50's! __________________ Tom

03-12-11, 10:53 PM	#7
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Hmm... Biggins brought this photo to my attention. http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/images/basszonedef.gif (thanks biggins) According to this, http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/seasons/bass.htm The southern zone has only a season for harvest. Or at least it does not mention a C&R season. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

03-12-11, 02:59 PM	#2
MIbasser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Okemos, MI Posts: 1,447	I know it's none of my business what you do, but come on. Do you think that CO's are really that stupid? I know people tried that in MI and they were given tickets. I've also heard that they are going to be enforcing it more this year. If WI is anything like MI, then I do hope you get a ticket. It would really suck to hear you lost your right to fish because you thought it would be "cool" to get out early. If you do go, don't post about it. I'm not a fan, and I hope that Kevin isn't a fan of people bragging about breaking the law, because that is what you will be doing.

03-13-11, 01:24 PM	#10
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	I certainly don't recommend that Sammy break the law, but again I'll chime in on how stupid the laws are in Wisconsin. Just more government control by a few leftist, elitist wackos. Just like "fly only" streams and rivers. You can't fish 6 months a year...sounds like paradise. As is often the case, the hypocrisy is staggering. Those who swear by C & R in other places, for some reason think it would kill all of the fish in Wisconsin during the cold months. The policy is clear...require C & R in places they figure the population will refuse not to fish, and outlaw fishing altogether where they think (and obviously rightly so) they can get away with it. The reason they get away with it in Wisconsin is because everybody wants walleye up there. If they tried this crap with walleye, they'd get booted out. I think most fishing regulations represent the angling population's willingness to wear a collar, not the fish stocks' need to be regulated. I would love to see some evidence of how the bass population was on the verge of extinction before these ridiculous seasons were put into effect. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

03-14-11, 05:51 PM	#11
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	Bryce, The only thing I can think of is the concern with cold water fish being caught so deep. Here is an article that speaks about bass mortality rate in deep waters. I do not say that this is scientific fact, but it is a theory on why the law "might: exist. http://kramergonefishing.com/2011/02...ats-the-scoop/ __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

03-14-11, 06:19 PM	#12
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	You are right about deep water winter mortality. I know even here in Indiana, people will ask you to be smart and keep any crappie you catch, as they are usually caught in 40 feet of water, and they will not survive the pressure change at their metabolism level. I bring crappie up because that is what we southern Hoosiers fish for in Winter, not having a lot of walleye. I do have a question though....in a state like that where so many people ice fish, what happens to the bass caught through the hole? Obviously, you can not pick and choose what bites your lure. Do all of those fish get a death sentence? I'm surprised they don't ban ice fishing too. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

03-14-11, 06:22 PM	#13
cassidyta BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,928	Good question that I have no real answer for. Only guessing here, but perhaps they figure that there are few enough bass being targeted with ice fishing to allow it. I am by no means saying that it is right or wrong, just a guess. __________________ If you have ever wondered if you should retie, the answer is yes.

03-15-11, 11:13 AM	#14
Jrok BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 57	"I do have a question though....in a state like that where so many people ice fish, what happens to the bass caught through the hole? Obviously, you can not pick and choose what bites your lure. Do all of those fish get a death sentence? I'm surprised they don't ban ice fishing too." I have caught bass through the ice, every year I go out actually. However I never target them, it just happens. Also the lakes I fish are usually less than 20 feet so they go back just fine. When they are hungry, they will bite I guess. Hopefully everyone else releases them also. Last edited by Jrok; 03-15-11 at 11:14 AM. Reason: putting what I quoted in italics

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