New World Record Bass Pursuit dropped

Skeeter · 03-22-06, 05:07 PM

Another link and good article. Sounds like classy fisherman to know when to drop the pursuit. Know doubt that if that fish wasn't harmed, there's always the possibility of her being caught again. Maybe not this year......but who knows.

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/f...5.1_chase-over

JB · 03-22-06, 05:16 PM

To me that means he probably did catch a 25 pounder, and the media making a a¢¢ of themselves he probably said F it..I would too.
Best thing is his buddies all got to see it happen, a great memory for all of them and especially the angler that caught her.

WTL · 03-22-06, 08:15 PM

Thats nice, I'm glad they came to that decision. Next time if they land a 25 pounder, I hope they take all the measurements and dot every i.

As much as C&R is a good thing, if someone on here catches a 25 pounder....DON'T THROW IT BACK. To beat GW Perry's record we need 100% proof positive, and for such a historical record I believe keeping that 1 fish would be acceptable.

bass kicker · 03-22-06, 08:24 PM

that sucks that he didnt get the record but someone will eventially beat the old one

bassintom · 03-22-06, 09:01 PM

what gentlemen they are with so much respect for the sport and other anglers.i wish them success in the future.i hope they catch it again and get it certified.they deserve it.
it's time to up the ante anyway,perry's record stood too long.

bass kicker · 03-22-06, 09:15 PM

that is so true tom

Rebbasser · 03-22-06, 09:23 PM

I agree, Tom-what a class group of guys. True sportsmen. A part of me is glad they aren't pursuing the record-the 22-4 record is the Holy Graile of bass fishing and while I'd like to see the record broken I also like to see the current record remain intact.

HulaPopr · 03-22-06, 09:55 PM

If the standing record is broken, its broken. It shouldn't be a matter of personal opinion so much that it gets in the way of the facts. I don't think that the IGFA personally wants to see the record broken, so I think its going to stand until someone keeps the record fish, and they're going to make it harder than it needs to be to verify a record. BTW, these guys are a great example of true sportsmen.

bassguy2004 · 03-23-06, 12:37 AM

So, no one on this thread would have kept the "world record"? To have honor among gentlemen fishermen to let the record go. Hmmm. Just wondering what I would have done.

Skeeter · 03-23-06, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bassguy2004

So, no one on this thread would have kept the "world record"? To have honor among gentlemen fishermen to let the record go. Hmmm. Just wondering what I would have done.

Your XXXX skippy I would have kept it. I'm 100% for C&R but let's face it, a chance at breaking what is considered not only angling but one of the most elusive world records period, she would find certified scales one way or another. We're talking millions in dollars that the next record will be worth to the lucky angler.

As I said earlier, classy guys for dropping a record pursuit that probably would've been filled with doubters/naysayers and nonbelievers because of not having it weighed on certified scales. However, I find it hard to believe that anyone would turn down shot at history and not have done what it took to have that fish certified. I just don't understand what they were thinking. I for one wouldn't turn down a shot at a million plus.

Skeeter

WTL · 03-23-06, 01:46 AM

Well the thing is
1. The fish was foul-hooked. Even if it was unintentional and legal in tourneys, we can't have the next world record being foul hooked. Its bad form.

2. The dubious nature of the documentation....without the fish, or measurements we'd never know for sure...

3. 25 pounds is considerably larger than the current record. So much so that I wonder if 25 pounds was possible. Does it sound plausible gentlemen, that the 75 year old record is finally beaten by a fish that weighs a full 2 pounds more than what was once thought to be an unbeatable weight?

4. The next world record has to be indisbutable. The world record bass is among the biggest statistical prizes in sports, it can't be attained in any dubious or even half-dubious manner.

Again, if I catch a bass that big - your damn right I'm keeping it.

dodgeguy · 03-23-06, 06:37 AM

as far as i'm concerned perry's record no longer stands.screw the igfa.the scale could have been certified after the fact per their own rules.i watched the video and it did weigh 25-1.in this day of catch and release they should have given him the record.personally,if i had caught that fish it would no way have gone back in.i do applaud him for what he did but i never would have done it.hopefully he will get her again.

1FASTLASER · 03-23-06, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassintom

what gentlemen they are with so much respect for the sport and other anglers.i wish them success in the future.i hope they catch it again and get it certified.they deserve it.
it's time to up the ante anyway,perry's record stood too long.

You said it in a nut shell, I beleive they did catch a 25lb 1oz fish. Very TRUE sportsmen and we all could learn from them. I feel like they will break the record and the next time it will really brake it hard and will be certified in every undeniable way.

flbassman · 03-23-06, 04:42 PM

I'm glad they didn't break it. I'd much rather see the record go to a good ole boy from Georgia than to Californians catching trout-fed bass. If it was to be beat, I'd like to see it come out of the south. Those California bass are cheating. (Not that I would object to catching one

)

JB · 03-23-06, 04:47 PM

Ya have to figure genetics and availabity of forage is going to be a huge factor in someone catching a whale of a bass in california, seconded by florida...their growing periods are virtually all year, plus the strain of genetics is enhanced by bigger bass each year reproducing.

flfireman · 03-23-06, 05:44 PM

JB I agree w/ that. I firmly believe that the Cali fishery stocking trout is gonna continue to produce monster fish over there. The only thing good about it. They are FLORIDA strain bass. I respect them for what they did, I believe they should have the record. However, I also agree that due to the longevity of the current record, there should be no doubt about it. Sounds like these guys got that lake dialed in, unfortunately every TOM, DICK, and HARRY will be there fishing for the next year.

lovinfishin9 · 03-23-06, 07:07 PM

I would keep it, get it officially weighed, do whatever i could to make sure i got the record, then get the fish mounted.

Rebbasser · 03-23-06, 08:31 PM

Quote:

1. The fish was foul-hooked. Even if it was unintentional and legal in tourneys, we can't have the next world record being foul hooked. Its bad form.

2. The dubious nature of the documentation....without the fish, or measurements we'd never know for sure...

If I understand what happened correctly, the dubious nature of the documentation is BECAUSE it was foul hooked. They didn't think a foul-hooked fish would be recognized as a world record by the IFGA when, in fact, it could have been. If they had known this I'm sure they would have handled it differently.

Regardless, even if not recognized we all now know there is a Largemouth bass bigger than 22-4 swimming in a California lake.

I also agree having a record fish that was foul hooked just doesn't seem right. How would I handle it? No clue, but it would sure be something to find out!

Skeeter · 03-24-06, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebbasser

If I understand what happened correctly, the dubious nature of the documentation is BECAUSE it was foul hooked. They didn't think a foul-hooked fish would be recognized as a world record by the IFGA when, in fact, it could have been. If they had known this I'm sure they would have handled it differently.

Regardless, even if not recognized we all now know there is a Largemouth bass bigger than 22-4 swimming in a California lake.

I also agree having a record fish that was foul hooked just doesn't seem right. How would I handle it? No clue, but it would sure be something to find out!

Your correct Reb, as long as the fish wasn't intetionally foul hooked (ie, trying to snag it as opposed to setting the hook on a strike), it could/would have been legitamate. And from reading the article, your also correct. They assumed because the fish was foul hooked that it wouldn't count.

Skeeter

bassguy2004 · 03-25-06, 01:16 AM

Being from California not Cali as some people call it, I have to step in here. Not all lakes here are "stocked" with trout to fee the fish. I just so happened that the lakes the bass were introduced to had trout. Granted some lakes are stocked for the weekend trout fisherman who wants to take there kids or grandpa fishing, so they won't have to drive 5 hours to find a virgin stream to catch native fish. It sounds like some of you guys think the Dept of Fish and Game started the trout planting to raise the biggest bass on the planet. I'm not trying to offend anyone, just defend my state. Just my .02.

flbassman · 03-25-06, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassguy2004

It sounds like some of you guys think the Dept of Fish and Game started the trout planting to raise the biggest bass on the planet.

No offense meant, but that's exactly the impression I was under. Those bass seem to love eating 10 inch trout, so why wouldn't the department have special trout only lakes if the intention was fishing for trout.

Sluggo · 03-25-06, 01:57 PM

I heard that in the office of the United Fruit Co. in Havana,Cuba they had a black bass mounted on the wall that exceeded the George Perry Bass, but it got lost or destroyed when Castro came to power. I think I heard this from Doug Hannon.

03-22-06, 05:07 PM	#1
Skeeter BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: washington Posts: 284	New World Record Bass Pursuit dropped Another link and good article. Sounds like classy fisherman to know when to drop the pursuit. Know doubt that if that fish wasn't harmed, there's always the possibility of her being caught again. Maybe not this year......but who knows. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/f...5.1_chase-over

03-22-06, 08:15 PM	#3
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	Thats nice, I'm glad they came to that decision. Next time if they land a 25 pounder, I hope they take all the measurements and dot every i. As much as C&R is a good thing, if someone on here catches a 25 pounder....DON'T THROW IT BACK. To beat GW Perry's record we need 100% proof positive, and for such a historical record I believe keeping that 1 fish would be acceptable. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

03-22-06, 08:24 PM	#4
bass kicker BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beamsville,ONTARIO,CANADA Posts: 2,023	that sucks that he didnt get the record but someone will eventially beat the old one __________________ Rob Downs St. Catharines BASSMASTERS

03-22-06, 09:01 PM	#5
bassintom BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: washington(northwest) N.J. Posts: 3,958	what gentlemen they are with so much respect for the sport and other anglers.i wish them success in the future.i hope they catch it again and get it certified.they deserve it. it's time to up the ante anyway,perry's record stood too long. __________________ A man's gotta believe in something...I believe I'll go fishing.

03-22-06, 09:15 PM	#6
bass kicker BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beamsville,ONTARIO,CANADA Posts: 2,023	that is so true tom __________________ Rob Downs St. Catharines BASSMASTERS

03-22-06, 05:16 PM	#2
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	To me that means he probably did catch a 25 pounder, and the media making a a¢¢ of themselves he probably said F it..I would too. Best thing is his buddies all got to see it happen, a great memory for all of them and especially the angler that caught her.

03-22-06, 09:23 PM	#7
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,142	I agree, Tom-what a class group of guys. True sportsmen. A part of me is glad they aren't pursuing the record-the 22-4 record is the Holy Graile of bass fishing and while I'd like to see the record broken I also like to see the current record remain intact. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

03-22-06, 09:55 PM	#8
HulaPopr BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,282	If the standing record is broken, its broken. It shouldn't be a matter of personal opinion so much that it gets in the way of the facts. I don't think that the IGFA personally wants to see the record broken, so I think its going to stand until someone keeps the record fish, and they're going to make it harder than it needs to be to verify a record. BTW, these guys are a great example of true sportsmen. __________________ Orland, FL To do list: catch a bass on a c-rig catch a bass on a swimbait

03-23-06, 12:37 AM	#9
bassguy2004 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 317	So, no one on this thread would have kept the "world record"? To have honor among gentlemen fishermen to let the record go. Hmmm. Just wondering what I would have done. __________________ Show me the water, I will fish. Redwood Empire Bass Club

03-23-06, 01:46 AM	#11
WTL BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 7,466	Well the thing is 1. The fish was foul-hooked. Even if it was unintentional and legal in tourneys, we can't have the next world record being foul hooked. Its bad form. 2. The dubious nature of the documentation....without the fish, or measurements we'd never know for sure... 3. 25 pounds is considerably larger than the current record. So much so that I wonder if 25 pounds was possible. Does it sound plausible gentlemen, that the 75 year old record is finally beaten by a fish that weighs a full 2 pounds more than what was once thought to be an unbeatable weight? 4. The next world record has to be indisbutable. The world record bass is among the biggest statistical prizes in sports, it can't be attained in any dubious or even half-dubious manner. Again, if I catch a bass that big - your damn right I'm keeping it. __________________ Selling live waterdogs for less since 2005.

03-23-06, 06:37 AM	#12
dodgeguy BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: poughkeepsie,n.y. Posts: 930	as far as i'm concerned perry's record no longer stands.screw the igfa.the scale could have been certified after the fact per their own rules.i watched the video and it did weigh 25-1.in this day of catch and release they should have given him the record.personally,if i had caught that fish it would no way have gone back in.i do applaud him for what he did but i never would have done it.hopefully he will get her again. __________________ chrysler master tech,avid fisherman and i bleed red,white and blue!!!!

03-23-06, 04:42 PM	#14
flbassman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 2,840	I'm glad they didn't break it. I'd much rather see the record go to a good ole boy from Georgia than to Californians catching trout-fed bass. If it was to be beat, I'd like to see it come out of the south. Those California bass are cheating. (Not that I would object to catching one) __________________ R.I.P. Zooker Last edited by flbassman; 03-23-06 at 05:20 PM.

03-23-06, 04:47 PM	#15
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	Ya have to figure genetics and availabity of forage is going to be a huge factor in someone catching a whale of a bass in california, seconded by florida...their growing periods are virtually all year, plus the strain of genetics is enhanced by bigger bass each year reproducing.

03-23-06, 05:44 PM	#16
flfireman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 2,751	JB I agree w/ that. I firmly believe that the Cali fishery stocking trout is gonna continue to produce monster fish over there. The only thing good about it. They are FLORIDA strain bass. I respect them for what they did, I believe they should have the record. However, I also agree that due to the longevity of the current record, there should be no doubt about it. Sounds like these guys got that lake dialed in, unfortunately every TOM, DICK, and HARRY will be there fishing for the next year. __________________ In the Lord all things are possible.

03-23-06, 07:07 PM	#17
lovinfishin9 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Middletown, VA Posts: 566	I would keep it, get it officially weighed, do whatever i could to make sure i got the record, then get the fish mounted. __________________ Take your caviar and that fish that ain't cooked, take if off a cracker and throw it on a hook. :D :)

03-25-06, 01:16 AM	#20
bassguy2004 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 317	Being from California not Cali as some people call it, I have to step in here. Not all lakes here are "stocked" with trout to fee the fish. I just so happened that the lakes the bass were introduced to had trout. Granted some lakes are stocked for the weekend trout fisherman who wants to take there kids or grandpa fishing, so they won't have to drive 5 hours to find a virgin stream to catch native fish. It sounds like some of you guys think the Dept of Fish and Game started the trout planting to raise the biggest bass on the planet. I'm not trying to offend anyone, just defend my state. Just my .02. __________________ Show me the water, I will fish. Redwood Empire Bass Club

03-25-06, 01:57 PM	#22
Sluggo BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wildwood,missouri Posts: 53	I heard that in the office of the United Fruit Co. in Havana,Cuba they had a black bass mounted on the wall that exceeded the George Perry Bass, but it got lost or destroyed when Castro came to power. I think I heard this from Doug Hannon.

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